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General Discussion / Re: Logic, running for EC
« on: February 23, 2012, 01:49:00 PM »
Logic,

In one of your answers to the "Questions for all EC candidates" thread you mentioned that you would want a report on where things are on pretty much every front. While the EC has made some strides in this area (we have a mutable "to do" list we maintain regularly, tracking what we did and what we have left to do), I think this is an awesome idea that we just haven't thought to do the way you suggest - one fell swoop - because we never had so many slots open up before.


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General Discussion / Re: 2012 WoW COMPETITOR LIST
« on: February 22, 2012, 01:10:49 PM »
Or win/win.

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General Discussion / Re: 2012 WoW COMPETITOR LIST
« on: February 22, 2012, 01:02:53 PM »
Wait. Are you telling me the Host City can have a cupcake eating round if it wants!?!?!?

Technically, yes. We would be forced to advise against it because many of our members have no sense of humor, but we couldn't stop an HC from doing this.

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General Discussion / Re: 2012 WoW COMPETITOR LIST
« on: February 22, 2012, 12:41:50 PM »
In response to what part of what Suzi said, "We should all have a system that removes that pressure from any one person" I think the ED should have a clear back-up person, that "contact anyone on the EC to answer questions" has shown itself to be too vague. (If I were waiting for an answer, having done that, I would still be waiting).
 Pressure on one person *is* too much. I advocate more than one voice box.As well as cool towels for the rest of us (as per Jesse's list on another thread).
Okay, but that is a tangent.
I really hear a need for a proposal.
On that other thread, I think Syd brought up a list for one.

"A clear, identifiable, system which would produce the same results everytime"

What about a randomizer? A computer program that takes into account distance, no-venue, etc.? Could one be written like one used to random-draw slam order? We could try it alongside of an actual list and see if the results are about the same?
Also, it would only be, for, say, what, 5-10 slots?

Karen, I hate to, but I disagree here.

First, you're blending two separate issues: workload on one person (which is why registration had an issue this year...that was rectified quickly, mind you) and one person determining the eventual outcome of the competitor list to everyone's satisfaction, which was never going to happen no matter what the system is. The minute there were people on the wait list, one of them was going to say, "Hey, can we expand the tournament? And who gets to decide this, anyway?" It happened when Steve used the same system as ED for years and it's happening now. This isn't a new system.

Which brings me to the other impression you describe, which is that you "hear a need for a proposal". I disagree. You hear a fraction of people asking for none, but I wouldn't rush to call that a "need". Nor should we dismiss the fact that nothing has been said about this so-called need for three months after hundreds of posts about it ending in November. If there was an actual need or even just some basic follow-through this would have been addressed a long time ago when it was hot, or shortly after when something could still be done or at least investigated. Some of the people who were clamoring for this "need" haven't said anything about it since, and a couple of them are running for EC. I don't see not having followed-up on generating a publicly-decried proposal in their bids. I'm not taking swipes here. I'm saying don't call something a need just because a handful of people were unhappy about something for a brief period of time. A need exhibits its necessity on an ongoing basis, across many mouths and probably numerous effects. This ain't one of them.

I am sorry this thread has gotten so far off track. I would recommend anyone who still cares about coming up with a system in time for the next event to do so in the thread that already exists for this express purpose.

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General Discussion / Re: 2012 WoW COMPETITOR LIST
« on: February 22, 2012, 11:29:12 AM »

That said, I think the Last Chance Slam needs to have a defined game plan. I have never seen it ordered the same way, year-to-year. But that's a whole 'nother topic...
 


Last Chance Slam changes every year because the HC gets to run it the way they want. It is technically not a PSi event at all. It just has a PSi prize at the end of it.

But don't think the EC hasn't talked about it. ;)

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General Discussion / Re: 2012 WoW COMPETITOR LIST
« on: February 22, 2012, 11:23:50 AM »
We should all have a system that removes that pressure from any one person. A clear, identifiable, system which would produce the same results everytime.

Perhaps this should be discussed at the spring SM meeting.

...or not.

I would recommend someone actually do what was already proposed months ago in this 5-page thread on this very subject here:
http://www.poetryslam.com/forum/index.php?topic=7244.0

Come up with a proposal that takes into account all of that discussion and present it to an EC member. Presenting it at the SM meeting just makes it a discussion item because SMs don't get to vote on tournament size. At the end of the day someone would need to recommend an alternative method for this to change. Hasn't happened.

More alarming is the short term subject memory and follow-through on this issue. This issue consumed weeks of people's attention over multiple threads. The threads/issue only dried up in November...less than three months ago. If someone - anyone - had spent even two, three or even four weeks creating a proposal after the heat died down and presented it to the EC at that point this would have been weighed and voted on well in advance of this event. Now, I'm not someone who thinks it should change, but there were people who were very adamant about it and they just petered out. This could have been changed if a compelling enough case were made for it 2-3 months ago. Don't need to be an EC member to affect policy, folks.

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General Discussion / Re: 2012 WoW COMPETITOR LIST
« on: February 21, 2012, 10:01:38 PM »
I would like to add to the pile from behind the scenes that just because we have done something in the past does not mean it was the best idea. We have vacillated on this issue many years for many reasons and I have no problem telling any of you that I think we already have the best shot at the bet show with what we have for a number of reasons. Adding poets makes poets feel good and it buys PSi some good will until the next competitor list is released for the next event (if we're lucky) but the conversation that has to take place after the fact - and that only the EC is having - is whether or not it worked. No one mentions that the awesome host that scared up a venue to meet "demand" gave us a sub-par venue or a venue that couldn't generate audience and that may have even cost us money. We've done a lot of things in the past. Doesn't mean they were right. Some of them were experiments to determine how we should frame this in the future.

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General Discussion / Re: Alvin Lau, Running for EC
« on: February 17, 2012, 12:27:29 PM »
Alvin,

Nowhere in your resume do I note that you've curated or managed a poetry reading. Do you have experience that is equivalent to a SlamMaster as concerns poetry and how poetry shows are produced, aside from performing in them?

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General Discussion / Re: Questions for all EC Candidates
« on: February 16, 2012, 03:11:46 PM »
5. Do you believe that the concept of legacy is important to PSi? If not, why not? If so, how would you see that manifested?

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General Discussion / Re: Sam Castello running for EC
« on: February 16, 2012, 01:46:44 PM »
Alvin, if you would like to debate the merits of what makes a successful event, I would recommend you use your platform from which to launch it, not clog other candidates' threads.

Even absent from an event I know more about its success or failure than you.

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General Discussion / Re: Inkera Oshun running for re-election on the EC
« on: February 16, 2012, 01:41:11 PM »
No, Scott, the problem is that PSI doesn't genuinely have many great successes to speak of, and that's why so many people are running for EC this year.

Inkera for 2012.

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General Discussion / Re: Inkera Oshun running for re-election on the EC
« on: February 16, 2012, 12:27:19 PM »
Hi Inkera,

Glad to see you running!

A few questions:

During your term as a member of the EC, four of the last six major tournaments had very poor attendance, including the last two iWPS and WoWPS events, and in the cultural consciousness, poetry slam has made no significant growth. Can you explain to the community why you feel you deserve re-election as a major part of the community leadership, given these perceived shortcomings? What policy changes within PSI are you responsible for and proud of? Your dedication and ethic is, of course, unparalleled, and a valuable asset to everyone.

As I have stated elsewhere, I have no idea where you are getting this impression as regards WOW. Inkera explains the shortcomings of the last two iWPS fine but I have to take STRONG exception with any perception that suggests WOW loses money.

WOW has grown every year since its inception, not just in terms of audience but profit as well. The last two WOWs in Columbus were both profitable, and 2011 exceeded 2010 signficantly on both counts. If there is a problem here it is only that PSi has not trumpted loudly enough the success of this event from day one.

You are flat-out misinformed on this count, Alvin.

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General Discussion / Re: Sam Castello running for EC
« on: February 16, 2012, 12:17:47 PM »
I'm not sure where this impression is coming from or what it's based on, but the last two WOWps have been profitable, with a marked increase from 2010 to 2011. Audience numbers were also increased.

This information is just flat-out wrong.

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General Discussion / Re: Inkera Oshun running for re-election on the EC
« on: February 12, 2012, 10:01:28 PM »
Inkera is easily one of the hardest-working EC members I've been on a team with. And she has a great knack for keeping the bigger picture in front of folks at decision time. Go get 'em, sis.

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General Discussion / Re: 2012 WoWPS Registration is OPEN
« on: February 10, 2012, 06:34:49 AM »
Our Executive Director handles all payments and registrations and she is backed up right now due to a part-time schedule because of the last couple of weeks of her maternity leave. If you've paid, assume it went through and that she just hasn't processed it yet. If you don't hear from her or ANYTHING in, say, end of X, post here again.

X = date that Abigail steps in here and posts. Abigail?

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